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Kata

Posted 2014-01-20 5:30 PM (#6179)
Subject: Short Fiction Reading Challenge

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Hi, I don't see a thread for the Short Story Reading Challenge yet. Could you please add the book Down these Strange Streets George R. R. Martin and Gardner Dozois (editors) to the database? I suspect I'll be requesting a lot more. Many thanks!

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Posted 2014-01-20 5:57 PM (#6180 - in reply to #6179)
Subject: RE: Short Fiction Reading Challenge

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You might want to post this on the book request thread, also, which you can find HERE. I'm not certain the admin will see it here.

There is a HUGE lack of short stories in the WWEnd database so I think we'll just have to be patient and wait for more to be added as we request them. I filled as many slots as I could with available books but left a few spots open hoping that some of the books I'm reading will eventually be added.

Good luck with the challenge!

Engelbrecht

Posted 2014-02-07 10:52 PM (#6391 - in reply to #6179)
Subject: List of WWE Short Fiction

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For those looking for short fiction, I've identified a number of collections & anthologies in the WWE db, as follows. I'm sure that I've missed a bunch, so post missing books and I'll update this list.

Abraham, Daniel - Leviathan Wept and Other Stories
Asher, Neal - The Gabble and Other Stories
Anderson, Poul - The Collected Short Works of Poul Anderson (four volumes)
Ash, Constance - Not of Woman Born (anthology)
Asimov, Isaac - Before the Golden Age (three volume anthology)
Asimov, Isaac - I, Robot
Asimov, Isaac - Robot Visions
Ballard, J. G. - Chronopolis and Other Stories
Banks, Iain M. - The State of the Art
Barker, Clive - Books of Blood
Barron, Laird - The Imago Sequence and Other Stories
Baxter, Stephen - Vacuum Diagrams
Beaulieu, Bradley P. - Lest Our Passage Be Forgotten & Other Stories
Bester, Alfred - Star Light, Star Bright
Bester, Alfred - Starburst
Bester, Alfred - Starlight
Bester, Alfred - The Dark Side of the Earth
Bester, Alfred - The Light Fantastic
Bester, Alfred - Virtual Realities
Blackwood, Algernon - Best Ghost Stories of Algernon Blackwood
Bova, Ben - Tales of the Grand Tour
Brackett, Leigh - Sea Kings of Mars
Bradbury, Ray - most works
Braunbeck, Gary A. - The Collected Cedar Hill Stories (two volumes)
Brett, Peter V. - The Great Bazaar and Other Stories
Brin, David - The River of Time
Brown & Mayo - Three Messages and a Warning: Contemporary Mexican Short Stories of the Fantastic
Butler, Octavia E. - Bloodchild and Other Stories
Calvino, Italo - Invisible Cities
Campbell, John W. - The Astounding Science Fiction Anthology
Clarke, Arthur C. - Expedition to Earth
Clarke, Susanna - The Ladies of Grace Adieu and Other Stories
Conklin, Groff - The Best of Science Fiction (anthology)
Cuinn, Carrie - Women and Other Constructs
Datlow, Ellen - all works (anthologies)
de Camp, L. Sprague - The Best of L. Sprague de Camp
de Camp, L. Sprague - The Continent Makers and Other Tales of the Viagens
De Lint, Charles - Dreams Underfoot
De Lint, Charles - Moonlight and Vines
De Lint, Charles - Muse and Reverie
De Lint, Charles - The Ivory and the Horn
De Lint, Charles - The Very Best of Charles De Lint
del Rey, Lester - Early del Rey
del Rey, Lester - Robots and Magic
del Rey, Lester - The Best of Lester del Rey
del Rey, Lester - War and Space
Dick, Philip K. - We Can Remember It for You Wholesale
di Filippo, Paul - Lost Pages
Donaldson, Stephen R. - The Best of Stephen R. Donaldson
Dozois, Gardner - most works (anthologies)
Drake, David - Hammer's Slammers
Egan, Greg - Axiomatic
Ellison, Harlan - most works (collections & anthologies)
Emshwiller, Carol - Report to the Men's Club and Other Stories
Emshwiller, Carol - The Collected Stories of Carol Emshwiller (two volumes)
Forster, E. M. - The Machine Stops: and Other Stories
Fowler, Karen Joy - Artificial Things
Gaiman, Neil - Fragile Things
Gibson, William - Burning Chrome
Gilman, Greer - Cloud & Ashes: Three Winter's Tales
Goss, Theodora - The Rose in Twelve Petals and Other Stories
Green & Lefanu - Despatches from the Frontiers of the Female Mind
Gregory, Daryl - Unpossible and Other Stories
Gunn, Eileen - Stable Strategies And Others
Guran, Paula - all works (anthologies)
Hartwell, David G. - The Dark Descent (anthology)
Healy & McComas - Adventures in Time & Space (anthology)
Heinlein, Robert A. - Expanded Universe
Heinlein, Robert A. - Revolt in 2100
Henderson, Zenna - Ingathering: The Complete People Stories of Zenna Henderson
Hill, Joe - 20th Century Ghosts
Hobb, Robin - The Inheritance & Other Stories
Hoffmann, E. T. A. - The Best Tales of Hoffmann
Hoffmann, E. T. A. - The Golden Pot and Other Tales
Howard, Robert E. - The Conan Chronicles, Volume 1
Howard, Robert E. - The Conan Chronicles, Volume 2
Jackson, Shirley - The Lottery and Other Stories
James, M. R. - Collected Ghost Stories
Johnson, Kij - At the Mouth of the River of Bees
Johnson, Kij - Tales for the Long Rains
Jones, Stephen - all works (anthologies)
King, Stephen - Different Seasons
Kipling, Rudyard - The Mark of the Beast
Knight, Damon - Cities of Wonder (anthology)
Knight, Damon - In Deep
Knight, Damon - Natural State and Other Stories
Knight, Damon - Off Center
Knight, Damon - Rule Golden
Knight, Damon - Turning On
Kornbluth, C. M. - The Best of C. M. Kornbluth
Kowal, Mary Robinette - Scenting the Dark
Kress, Nancy - Fountain of Age
Kuttner, Henry - The Best of Henry Kuttner
Laumer, Keith - Earthblood
Le Guin, Ursula K. - Changing Planes
Le Guin, Ursula K. - Four Ways to Forgiveness
Le Guin, Ursula K. - Tales from Earthsea
Le Guin, Ursula K. - The Wind's Twelve Quarters
Lee, Tanith - Tempting the Gods
Leiber, Fritz - all Lankhmar
Lem, Stanislaw - The Cyberiad
Lanagan, Margo - Black Juice
Lanagan, Margo - Red Spikes
Ligotti, Thomas - Songs of a Dead Dreamer
Ligotti, Thomas - The Shadow at the Bottom of the World
Link, Kelly - all works
London, Jack - The Science Fiction of Jack London
Lynn, Elizabeth A. - The Woman Who Loved the Moon and Other Stories
Lovecraft, H. P. - all works
Machen, Arthur - Tales of Horror and the Supernatural
Martin, George R. R. - all Warriors and Wild Cards (anthologies)
McAllister, Bruce - The Girl Who Loved Animals and Other Stories
McAuley, Paul J. - The Invisible Country
McHugh, Maureen F. - After the Apocalypse
McKinney, Joe - The Red Empire and Other Stories
Miéville, China - Looking for Jake
Miller Jr., Walter M. - Dark Benediction
Moore, C. L. - all works
Morris, Kenneth - The Dragon Path
Niven, Larry - The Best of Larry Niven
Poe, Edgar Allan - all works
Pohl, Frederic - The Best of Frederic Pohl
Pohl, Frederic - Tomorrow Times Seven
Pohl, Frederic - Worlds of If
Polidori, John - The Vampyre and Other Tales of the Macabre
Rardin, Jennifer - Quick Bites
Reed, Robert - The Dragons of Springplace
Saberhagen, Fred - Berserker
Sedia, Ekaterina - Moscow But Dreaming
Silverberg, Robert - Born With the Dead
Silverberg, Robert - Hunt the Space-Witch!
Silverberg, Robert - Science Fiction Hall of Fame (anthology)
Silverberg, Robert - The Fantasy Hall of Fame (anthology)
Simak, Clifford D. - City
Simak, Clifford D. - Worlds Without End
Skillingstead, Jack - Are You There and Other Stories
Smith, Clark Ashton - all works
St. Claire, Margaret - The Best of Margaret St. Claire
Sturgeon, Theodore - E Pluribus Unicorn
Swanwick, Michael - Tales of Old Earth
Swanwick, Michael - The Best of Michael Swanwick
Swanwick, Michael - The Dog Said Bow-Wow
Strahan, Jonathan - all works (mostly anthologies)
Tiptree, Jr, James - Ten Thousand Light-Years from Home
Tolkien, J. R. R. - Smith of Wooton Major & Farmer Giles of Ham
Tolkien, J. R. R. - Unfinished Tales
van Vogt, A. E. The Voyage of the Space Beagle
VanderMeer, Jeff - Leviathan Volume 3 (anthology)
VanderMeer, Jeff - The Weird (anthology)
Varley, John - The Persistence of Vision
Vonnegut Jr, Kurt - Welcome to the Monkey House
Vukcevich, Ray - Meet Me in the Moon Room
Weinbaum, Stanley G. - A Martian Odyssey and Other Science Fiction Tales
Waldrop, Howard - Them Bones
Wells, H. G. - H. G. Wells Complete Short Story Omnibus
Wells, H. G. - H. G. Wells: Selected Short Stories
Wells, H. G. - Selected Stories of H. G. Wells
Williamson, Jack - The Collected Stories of Jack Williamson (eight volumes)
Willis, Connie - Time Is the Fire
Wolfe, Gene - Castle of Days
Wolfe, Gene - Endangered Species
Wolfe, Gene - Innocents Aboard
Wolfe, Gene - Starwater Strains
Wolfe, Gene - Storeys from the Old Hotel
Wolfe, Gene - The Best of Gene Wolfe
Wolfe, Gene - The Island of Dr Death and Other Stories and Other Stories
Zelazny, Roger - The Doors of His Face, The Lamps of His Mouth
Zelazny, Roger - The Collected Stories of Roger Zelazny (six volumes)
Zivkovic, Zoran - Four Stories Till the End

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Posted 2014-02-07 11:17 PM (#6393 - in reply to #6391)
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Engelbrecht - 2014-02-07 10:52 PM

I'm going to get with whargoul and see what we can do to make an official list out of this! I don't think I've ever seen them all in one place like that before. Thanks Engelbrecht for the idea and the work in putting this together.

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Posted 2014-02-08 12:30 AM (#6398 - in reply to #6393)
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^{Here are a few more for the list:}

Hamilton, Edmond: The Collected Captain Future: Volume One
Hamilton, Edmond: The Collected Captain Future: Volume Two
Hamilton, Edmond: The Collected Edmond Hamilton: Volume One: The Metal Giants and Others
Hamilton, Edmond: The Collected Edmond Hamilton: Volume Two: The Star-Stealers
Hamilton, Edmond: The Collected Edmond Hamilton: Volume Three: The Universe Wreckers
Braunbeck, Gary A.: Graveyard People: The Collected Cedar Hill Stories, Volume 1
Braunbeck, Gary A.: Home Before Dark: The Collected Cedar Hill Stories, Volume 2
Norton, Andre: Tales From High Hallack - The Collected Short Stories of Andre Norton, Volume: 1
Norton, Andre: Tales From High Hallack - The Collected Short Stories of Andre Norton, Volume: 2

Of course, we're giving away 5 copies of the first High Hallack collection in the blog which could help with your challenges.

HRO

Posted 2014-02-08 7:18 AM (#6400 - in reply to #6179)
Subject: Re: Short Fiction Reading Challenge

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And a couple more:

Byatt, A.S. - Elementals
Goss, Theodora - In the Forest of Forgetting
Palwick, Susan - The Fate of Mice
Stross, Charles - Wireless
Murphy, Pat - Points of Departure

Most excellent work Engelbrecht.

Also, for those hunting for books for this challenge, most of the prizes have a short story collection category though that info is not included in the WWEnd listings. (I know for certain that the World Fantasy, the Locus, and the Bram Stoker have a collection category.) You might find a few books on the prize lists that are in the WWEnd database (although a lot of them are not).

Edited by HRO 2014-02-08 7:43 AM

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Posted 2014-02-08 9:12 AM (#6402 - in reply to #6179)
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Great list! A few more:

Lou Anders - Fast Forward 1 & 2
Rebecca Ore - Centuries Ago and Very Fast
Ian Whates - Solaris Rising 2
Robert Heinlein - The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag
Ian MacDonald - Cyberabad Days
J. R. R. Tolkein - The Silmarillion
John Varley - In the Hall of the Martian Kings
Brian Aldiss - The Moment of Eclipse

ManyMoons

Posted 2014-02-08 10:18 AM (#6404 - in reply to #6179)
Subject: Re: Short Fiction Reading Challenge

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Thanks for the lists. They help. Nothing I read in January was listed on WWE. Not sure I can meet the challenge though, because these are entire books of short stories, rather than just an individual short story/novella. I'll try though.

Edited by ManyMoons 2014-02-08 10:21 AM

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Posted 2014-02-08 3:17 PM (#6405 - in reply to #6179)
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I assume that the challenge is for collections of stories. WWE doesn't catalog individual stories or novellas.

Engelbrecht

Posted 2014-02-08 7:00 PM (#6407 - in reply to #6179)
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Dave, I can't seem to be able to edit my list post as I don't have an Edit button visible - has a setting changed, or am I just blind today?

I'm going to get with whargoul and see what we can do to make an official list out of this!

An alternative approach to this might be to create colored number indicator for short fiction, translated works, etc. Just as the red number indicator is used for awards and a black number indicator is used for lists, a green number indicator could be used for identifying misc. characteristics of works.

I guess my concern here is that the value of the black indicator connotes a certain significance for a work and that increasing this value for a work simply because it is a collection diminishes the significance of, for example, "Best 100" works.

Also, do we care about differentiating collections and anthologies (and "mosaic" novels like Simak's City)? Oh, and what about novellas that are published in a stand alone format, such as many of the works from Subterranean Press?

Heinlein's The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag is actually a title used both for the standalone short novel and as a title for a collection issued in 1959 by Gnome Press, never since reprinted (see ISFDB). The later publication by Pyramid and Ace as referenced by the WWE db refer to the later publication of the work in a standalone format. Gnome Press should probably be removed from the WWE db publisher list (possibly a separate work could be set up for the Gnome Press collection).

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Posted 2014-02-08 7:19 PM (#6409 - in reply to #6179)
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My copy is unfortunately boxed and buried in the cellar so I can't confirm. It was a Penguin edition published in the UK in 1966 and, if memory serves was short stories and I have it catalogued on LT as such.

HRO

Posted 2014-02-09 2:23 AM (#6413 - in reply to #6179)
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Her Smoke Rose Up Forever by James Tiptree Jr. is being issued as a SF Masterworks edition in 2014 so it will FINALLY be added to the WWEnd database. Yay.

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Posted 2014-02-09 1:15 PM (#6418 - in reply to #6407)
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Engelbrecht - 2014-02-08 7:00 PM Dave, I can't seem to be able to edit my list post as I don't have an Edit button visible - has a setting changed, or am I just blind today?

I don't know why you can see the edit button. Nothing has changed. Perhaps your login expired?

What I had in mind for the list was to add a "book type" flag to the DB so we can tag books as novel, collection, anthology, graphic novel, novella, non-fiction etc. Then we can use that flag for searching and sorting and create a list like the series list that is an alpha paginated list of all short story collections and anthologies. The new list would not be counted in the black list appearances number because it's only on a list for type of book rather than it making a list based on it's merits.

HRO

Posted 2014-02-09 1:59 PM (#6420 - in reply to #6418)
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Engelbrecht - 2014-02-08 7:00 PM Dave, I can't seem to be able to edit my list post as I don't have an Edit button visible - has a setting changed, or am I just blind today?

I don't know why you can see the edit button.

The site only allows you to edit a post within 30 minutes of posting it. After that, the edit option vanishes.

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Posted 2014-02-09 11:06 PM (#6423 - in reply to #6409)
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justifiedsinner - 2014-02-08 5:19 PM My copy is unfortunately boxed and buried in the cellar so I can't confirm. It was a Penguin edition published in the UK in 1966 and, if memory serves was short stories and I have it catalogued on LT as such.

You're right - I had missed that edition (and, looking further, some others). I believe that the version in the WWE db is the standalone short novel version as it's been associated with Pringle's Modern Fantasy: The 100 Best Novels list.

Dave, your approach with a "book type" is much better than mine - nice work!

HRO, thanks for identifying the issue with the edit button - I thought I was losing it or something...

Engelbrecht

Posted 2014-02-09 11:18 PM (#6424 - in reply to #6179)
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There are some collections & anthologies not in the WWE db from authors not represented above that are truly excellent. You couldn't go wrong reading any of these...

Aickman, Robert - Cold Hand in Mine
Asimov, Isaac - The Hugo Winners Vol. I (1955-61) (anthology, later volumes prepared by various editors)
Asimov & Greenberg - The Great SF Stories 1 (1939) through The Great SF Stories 25 (1963) (25 anthologies covering 25 years)
Bear, Elizabeth - Shoggoths in Bloom
Borges, Jorge - Collected Fictions
Chiang, Ted - Stories of Your Life and Others
Crowley, John - Novelties & Souvenirs: Collected Short Fiction
Davidson, Avram - The Avram Davidson Treasury
Dunsany, Lord - any collection
Ford, Jeffrey - Crackpot Palace
Millhauser, Steven - The Knife Thrower
Robinson, Spider - Callahan's Crosstime Saloon
Saunders, George - CivilWarLand in Bad Decline
Shepard, Lucius - Beast of the Heartland
Sladek, John - The Best of John Sladek
Spinrad, Norman - Other Americas
Sterling, Bruce - A Good Old Fashioned Future
Straub, Peter - Conjunctions: 39, The New Wave Fabulists (anthology)
Tidbeck, Karin - Jagannath
Vance, Jack - The Best of Jack Vance
Wilson, Gahan - The Cleft and Other Odd Tales

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Posted 2014-02-10 9:44 AM (#6432 - in reply to #6179)
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I definitely second the Ted Chiang.

(On the Heinlein, I mark as read any book that represents the contents that I've read so I'll mark an omnibus edition if I've read the separate volumes and I'll mark novellas if I've read a collection in which they appear). Kudos for working out which edition is referenced often a difficult task on WWE.

Emil

Posted 2014-03-31 5:59 AM (#6789 - in reply to #6179)
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The RYO Short Fiction reading challenge is a great opportunity to re-read some collections, so I'm going to do it. And add one or two new ones to the fray. Can you add Heinlein's collection The Menace from Earth that includes "By His Bootstraps", the ultimate time-travel story http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Menace_From_Earth_(collection)

as well as add AC Clarke's enormous compendium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Collected_Stories_of_Arthur_C._Cla...

HRO

Posted 2014-04-21 8:55 AM (#7304 - in reply to #6179)
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FYI: Quite a few short story collections have been recently added so if there was something you were wishing was in the database go check again because it might be there now.

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Posted 2014-04-27 4:06 PM (#7372 - in reply to #6179)
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Yes, thanks for including Connie Willis' older collections: Impossible Things & Fire Watch.

Could someone add Elizabeth Moon's Phases?

HRO

Posted 2014-04-27 5:35 PM (#7375 - in reply to #7372)
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juliael71 - 2014-04-27 5:06 PM

Could someone add Elizabeth Moon's Phases?

Done. I also added her other collections - Lunar Activity and Moonflights.

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