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Veteran Posts: 207 | Yea I saw the "book lists" tab, very cool. more ideas about lists: http://www.goodreads.com/list/show_tag?name=sci-fi browsing that I noticed an award called the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_Award. reading that i noticed http://www.salon.com/books/feature/1999/07/27/macleod_interview/pri... | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | Just added a new list: The ISFDB Top 100 Books (Balanced List) Check it out and let me know what you think. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 207 | Awesome, loving the lists feature! Just reading "The Difference Engine" which is on that list, which will take me to 21 read, lots of reading to do! Edited by htaccess 2010-03-15 3:54 PM | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | Yeah, I'm diggin' the lists too. The best thing about this new one is we already had 97 of the 100 books in the WWEnd database. That's low hanging fruit. The 3 missing books were The Lord of the Rings (as a single volume), Golden Fleece by Robert J. Sawyer and In the Country of the Blind by Michael Flynn. | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | A new list! The Year's Best Science Fiction edited by Gardner Dozois. This is the quintessential series of SF anthologies going back to 1984. It's a bit of a departure for WWEnd as we have really kept ourselves confined to novels thus far but I thought it would be kind of fun to add 'em. So why the short SF? - TYBSF is widely followed, highly regarded and eminently collectible. - I want to see what you guys think of anthologies. - The lists feature is the perfect vehicle for anthologies and I don't have to commit to more than just this list if it doesn't work. - I've been reading a lot of short SF lately... So... what's the verdict? Do you like it? Should we stick to novels or would you like to see more anthologies on WWEnd? I've been thinking about an anthologies section for some time now. There are a bajillion of them out there and I've noticed some great looking new ones have been coming out lately that's I've got to have. I figured you guys might feel the same. I figured I'd start with the most famous series and we could add more starting with the award winning anthos and other famous series like The Year's Best Fantasy etc. Hope you like.
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | htaccess - 2009-12-23 3:45 PM I have been working my way through the SF Master Works Series and plan to make my way through David Pringle's Best 100 Science Fiction Novels. My request is that you add these two lists to the site. I realize the premise for this site is to cover awards, but the overriding goal is to help find quality SF/Fantasy to read and then help keep track of what you have read and want to read. If you have a look at the list you will see there is already considerable overlap and I would argue that the books that are missing would not be out of place featured on this site. Boo-Yah! David Pringle's Best 100 Science Fiction NovelsTook a bit longer than I had hoped but now you can go to town. I fare quite poorly with the Pringle list. So poorly in fact that I'm not going to speak of it again. Try not to gloat. Check it out and let me know what you think of the list.
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Veteran Posts: 207 | Yea i saw you had finished it last night, thanks for adding it, quite a few new books in this list. | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | The book lists are now linked from the novel pages. Check out The Time Ships by Stephen Baxter to see. It's in the info box under the Awards list. Schweet! | ||
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Veteran Posts: 207 | I vote for http://classics.jameswallaceharris.com/Lists/ByRank.php next! | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | That is an impressive list at 193 books! I'll take a look this weekend and see about adding it to the site. | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas |
I've reviewed the Classics of Science Fiction list and here are the missing books:
I've got my work cut out for me but these are some exciting additions. | ||
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Member Posts: 38 | Impressive and some very good titles in there. One of which, She, is the first sci-fi I ever read. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 207 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Čapek is the guy who coined the word robot. | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | You know, I've been searching high and low for an authoritative list of the best foreign language SF works translated into English. I'm guessing this guy would be on the list somewhere. Anybody seen such a list? | ||
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Member Posts: 38 | I know of a Fr website which carries a DB of 8000 world authors in the SF/F/Horror genres. For each author, the description will tell you where the author originates from and all his/her titles published, in French of course. They also provide the titles in English. Is this what you mean by authoritative? In other words, this is HUGE. | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | Pierre - 2010-05-16 7:36 PM I know of a Fr website which carries a DB of 8000 world authors in the SF/F/Horror genres. For each author, the description will tell you where the author originates from and all his/her titles published, in French of course. They also provide the titles in English. Is this what you mean by authoritative? In other words, this is HUGE. Hmmmm. Not quite what I was after though it probably does meet the authoritative requirement! What I'm looking for is a list that will be generally accepted by most fans as "authoritative" because of both the source of the list and the content of the list. For instance The ISFDB Top 100 Books list has credibility because the source, content and method of selection are know and deemed sufficiently authoritative that we care. You don't have to agree with all the books included on the list but you can have some confidence that it's not just a list made by some guys over beers. In this case, I don't know much about translated works but I have a desire to try the best SF/F from foreign climes. A list of great translated books that I can trust would be a huge help to me and would provide some great content for WWEnd visitors. There is a whole world of SF out there that I can't access directly but perhaps I can get a taste of what's happening in Japan or Poland or Russia through the few books that get translated. | ||
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Member Posts: 38 | I figured this was exactly the opposite you are looking for, as it is not a list but rather a compendium. On the other hand, if such a list does not exist, this DB would be quite helpful to build one as you can make a search by countries of origin. If a novel or novella or short has been translated into French, there is a good probability it was also in English. For example, A.E. Van Vogt is an American who, I believe, did not get much recognition in the USA, but most of his books were translated. He has quite a large fan base in France. With this premisse in mind, the reverse may be true for foreign texts translated into English. | ||
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Regular Posts: 92 Location: Boston, MA | my suggestion is to scan through foreign sf/f book awards winners and find those translated into english. logic is based on a premise that if a book won in a national contest AND got translated into english it must be good. hey, you may even scratch the part about winning, translation is a huge deal by itself. i understand that it requires considerable labor/time investment but maybe forum users can pull this off - identify them, find info on them like plot, cover image, selling store. then admins can simply enter that data into db. here're names of several foreign sf/f awards - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:National_science_fiction_awar... thinking of starting a thread to illustrate my idea ... | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | I'm still working on the assumption that such a list already exists somewhere though I'm losing hope in that. I also thought there would surely be an award or even a good list for Military SF but I can't locate one of those either. | ||
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Regular Posts: 92 Location: Boston, MA | i did more digging today in search of such list but i can't find anything. there's a lot of talk why very few get translated and why english is a dominant language in the genre. i found this though - http://www.ou.edu/worldlit/onlinemagazine/2010may/webcontents.html. admins, maybe you can ask these guys to help you find a list of foreign sf. | ||
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Uber User Posts: 202 Location: Sacramento, California | @Dave, A Military SF list would be great, as that is one of my favorite sub-genre of science fiction. William C. Dietz wrote some great ones. | ||
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Admin Posts: 4008 Location: Dallas, Texas | Deven Science - 2010-05-23 9:31 PM @Dave, A Military SF list would be great, as that is one of my favorite sub-genre of science fiction. William C. Dietz wrote some great ones. @Deven Science: If such a list could be found it would be my top priority. I'm dying to get more MilSF into the site. Unfortunately I've not been able to find anything other than some small lists on various blogs and I don't know enough about the sub-genre to make my own. I'll keep looking though. Anybody got any ideas? | ||
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Veteran Posts: 207 | Regarding the best non-english sf: http://www.locusmag.com/Reviews/2010/03/overview-of-international-s... In general I would suggest that these missing lists are a great opportunity for WWEnd, if they don't exist then create them! At its simplest you could make a forum topic where people could nominate and vote and use the lists area to make the resulting list. The lists would need to be updated periodically to allow people to continue to add new material and vote for old material. Starting small would also be a good idea, say a top ten list, it could then be expanded as necessary. Obviously a more complex specialised mechanism for voting and nominating could be built. | ||
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Member Posts: 38 | Maybe I oversimplify, but if the sub-genres are accurately reflected by admin and members, then lists would create themselves and be generated through a db search. In other words, the more books are added, the best lists will be created. Isn't it also a matter of tagging them correctly and completely, for example: Genre, sub-genres, Series or not, Country/language of origin, number of reads, award wins or noms etc. It all comes down to the books in the db. | ||
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Uber User Posts: 202 Location: Sacramento, California | You make a great point, Pierre. If one could track the books on this site by marked sub-genre, and then organize them by average reader rating into a list, then you would have an instant WWEnd list for every sub-genre. A new person could start with the top rated books, and work his way down if he liked what he read. What do you think, Dave? WWEnd could create their own lists, and WWEnders would have a direct effect on the order by voting for the ones they've read and liked. | ||
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